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gofour
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(8/12/02 10:08:00 pm)
Swaybar answer
ZNAKOMI,

You asked about the swaybar and the trackbar.

Lets start with the swaybar. It is called many things but is correctly called an anti-sway or better yet an anti-roll bar.

Most everyone has one on the front of their road car. (Look at it sometime) Some of you have one on the rear as well. The anti-roll bar is best described as round metal rod with the ends bent backward. Sort of a U-shaped rod if you will. They come in all sorts of rod diameters. Usually the larger the vehicle the larger the diameter of the rod.

In order to understand the use of the anti-roll bar we must first discuss the mechanics of the suspension. In the front end of the car the wheels are mounted to a hub which is bolted to a spindle. The spindle is connected to a steering knuckle which in turn is connected to two A shaped arms (called....A arms). There is an upper and lower A arm on each front wheel. The upper and lower A arms are mounted to the frame in such a way that they can move up and down. The coil spring we have talked so much about is located between these A arms. The bottom of the spring presses against the lower A-arm and the top of the spring presses against a round plate mounted to a jacking bolt which is threaded through the frame. (The jacking bolt is what is used to compress or decompress the spring for wedge adjustments) The anti-roll bar is bolted to the lower A arm on each side of the car and supported in rubber mounts attached to the frame.

The anti-sway bar's job is simple. It's sole purpose is to control the amount of body roll the car experiences in a turn. As you all know a cars weight transfers from the inside to the outside of the car in a turn. On an oval track the left side weight (sprung weight only) transfers to the right side of the car. Sometimes this is so excessive that he left side tires come completely off the ground. In stock car racing it is NEVER a good thing for any tire to come off the ground. Some may think that changing to stiffer springs and shocks could be the answer but to do so would be to make the suspension so stiff that it would not be much of a suspension at all. Somehow the roll must be controlled while maintaining the suspensions capability to absorb shock and transfer some weight as required.

Imagine your holding a long thick metal rod in your hands and that your grip is so strong that the rod can not rotate in your grasp. If you rotate the rod forward in your right hand then the rod will force your left hand to rotate forward as well.

Now imagine that you are holding a long soft rubber rod in your hands with the same strong grip as before. If you rotate the rubber rod forward in your right hand the rubber will twist instead of forcing your left hand forward. If you continue to twist this rod with the right hand you will eventually build up enough twisting force in the rubber rod that it begins to force your left hand forward as well. This twisting force is called torsion.

The amount that a anti-roll bar can be twisted is controlled by the thickness of the rod and the material it is made of. Cars use steel rods almost exclusively and therefore rod diameter is the deciding factor. A large diameter rod of 3" for example would have so much resistance to twist (torsion) that each end of the rod would move in the same direction as soon as twisting force was applied to either side.
A small diameter rod of 1/2" would twist a great deal before the other end began to move.

Now lets apply all this knowledge. (Remember that the anti-roll bar is u shaped and connected to the lower A-arms which the spring rests on.)

In order for a cars weight to roll from one side to the other the following must happen: The spring on the side giving up weight must expand (decompress) and the spring gaining weight must compress. Again, remember for a spring to expand (decompress) the lower A-arm must move downward. Conversely for a spring to compress the lower A-arm must move upward.

Here is where the anti-roll bar comes in. When the weight of the car tries to roll over to the right side and force the RIGHT side lower A-arm upward (putting the rod in torsion) the rod in turn tries to force the LEFT side lower A-arm upward. This does not allow the spring on the left to expand as much as it needs to in order to transfer all the weight to the right. A solid 3' bar would not allow any expansion of the left a-arm and therefore no weight would transfer (No body roll). A smaller 1/2" bar would twist a great deal before forcing the opposite A-arm upward and therefore more weight would transfer (Much body roll).

Not all body roll is bad. A certain amount is required in order for the suspension to work. Therefore bar diameters are usually selected between the sizes I used for examples depending on how much or how little weight transfer is desired.

The same effect is true in the rear of the car. (There are no A-arms in the rear so the bar is effectively mounted to the axle housing). The same concept applies here - for one side to expand the axle must move downward and for one side to compress the axle must move upward. The anti-roll bar works to control the amount of these movements and therefore controls rear body roll.

Overall, it can best be understood that the less the body rolls the less the inside tires are "pulled from the track". And therefore the car maintains more rubber on the track. Less body roll equals a tighter car. More body roll equals a looser car. The crewchief sees it this way: a bigger bar tightens the car and a smaller bar loosens the car. (Watch the races - sometimes the cars get so extermely tight the crew chief unhooks the rear bar completely during the race. Rarely is the front bar unhooked. This is due to the dynamics of the cars "Roll Center" which is a topic for another time).

Roll bars between 7/8" and 1 1/2" diameter are the most common sizes used on the racecar. The team that gets the bar right will find it much easier to tune the spring package on race weekend.

I'll answer the track bar question in a separate thread another time.

Later,
Gofour





4the4 
Registered User
Posts: 548
(8/12/02 10:58:49 pm)
Re: Swaybar answer
Thanks gofour, I enjoyed reading that.

4the4

ZNAKOMI
Administrator
Posts: 1574
(8/13/02 8:00:14 am)
Re: Swaybar answer
He's pretty good at explaining this stuff 4te4, ain't he!

Thanks gofour. Lol, I remember a '66 olds I had where the rubber bushings were shot on the front antisway bar, and it made the bushing washers jingle like a sleigh...I replaced the bushings to stop the noise, but remember laying under there looking at the bars...finally concluding: "That thing don't do anything"! Ahhh, youth!

I gotta take a look at a rear end setup to see how this thing is mounted. The tortion must come from the curve at the ends (otherwise it would just ride up and down with the lower A-frames on the front, or housing on the rear)...so i don't have a good picture of the rear yet..where it is suppoted along the straight part. If I've got this right, the ends have to be on the axel housing that moves (relative to the body), but it's support on the straight length must be supported somewhere on the body?
Lol, actually I didn't know one was back there at all!

When you watch a car on tv, and watch it's front air dam as it rolls over, the antisway bar is used to set it's travel primarily rather than the springs? That must make it a lot easier...I thought the spring selection set this primarily.

Thanks a million gofour, nice contributions to the board!

(can't wait to hear about the track bar.)

Edited by: ZNAKOMI at: 8/13/02 8:23:55 am
gofour
Unregistered User
(8/13/02 7:09:39 pm)
Your right
ZNAKOMI,

Your right, your right, your absolutely right! The torsion effect comes from the lever effect of the "arms" of the u shaped bar. The bar is supported along the straight "middle" portion by frame hangers to force the bar to twist rather than simply move up and down.

 
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