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« Reply #270 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 1:25pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 12:46pm, imisshimbad wrote:
...a dead baby killed by Kerry is virtually the same as a dead baby killed by bush.

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« Reply #271 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 2:06pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 1:25pm, jimmie d wrote:


 
I don't get it Jim, unless you're trying to say I'm coo-coo for voting my conscience. I rather say that people voting with the monied interests are coo-coo, it's not me voting for the wrong person, it's them. If all voted like me, we'd be out of Iraq and with the freed up billions be working on things at home. At any rate, if that's the case, then my question would be this:
 
In that there have been ~1000 US military deaths (most since bush declared the war "won"), 7900 Iraqi soldier deaths, and between 10,000 and 20,000 innocent civilian deaths in the first 18 months of the war...would you say the deaths will stop when Kerry is pushing the SAME occupation that Bush is pushing?  
Why is a dead baby killed by Kerry as commander in chief and different than a dead baby killed by Bush as commander in chief?
(no wishy wash answers now)
 
My candidate gets my vote largely because as the Council on Foreign Relations agrees, pulling the contracts, puppet government, and turning over new government installation to the UN is the way to go. That's a totally different situation as the Iraqi people will be getting control of their country. They will distance themselves from the resistance and the violence will greatly subside.  
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« Reply #272 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 2:39pm »
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If all voted like me, we'd be out of Iraq and with the freed up billions be working on things at home.

If all who voted like you had voted for Gore, instead, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.
 
Bush & Gore are not the Bobbsey Twins.
 
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« Reply #273 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 3:47pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 2:39pm, jimmie d wrote:

If all who voted like you had voted for Gore, instead, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.
 
Bush & Gore are not the Bobbsey Twins.
 

 
And if sall you who voted for Gore had voted for Nader as I did in 2000, we wouldn't be in this mess either. But where does discussing the past leave us, some kinda justification fior voting against my consience?
Besides, Gore DID win in 2000.
 
And you haven't answered my questions from above although I answered yours quite directly and promptly, (your failure to answer might be an answer in itself as viewed by some).
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« Reply #274 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 3:52pm »
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Besides, Gore DID win in 2000.

 

 
Get over it already!!
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« Reply #275 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 3:52pm »
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The whole god-dam country needs to find out what's going on, and vote their concscience, that's the onkly way out. Otherwise, it's what we see is what we get.
 
Don't blame me if we're in war for the next 4 years, I voted for the one who will pull us out, contracts and all. Blame the 95% who are voting for the PRO_WAR camps. Theyt are fucking pro war candidates, and that's all there is to it.
No, I'm not voting pro-war, that's bad.
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« Reply #276 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 4:04pm »
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Kerry supporters are their "smartest":  
 
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What a bunch of fucking brainless fucks!!
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« Reply #277 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:05pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 3:47pm, imisshimbad wrote:
...where does discussing the past leave us, some kinda justification fior voting against my consience?

I dunno...you brought up the past.
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« Reply #278 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:13pm »
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This radio host is as sure as stupid as the peoples that got in the air, and even more. The way he keeps on saying "Kerny" says a lot about his lack of professionalism. Trash radio by a trash interviewers. If only he got some informed guests instead of selecting ignorants. Any one can do what he did.
 
Recent poll in the News today: Bush is in the lead. Yeah, folks, it may looks like we're heading for another 4 years of Mass Stupidity. You'll get a kick watching that big number (the cost of the war) growing up in New-York for another 4 years. Who said there was no fun to be had in this marvelous world ? And since Nader voters won't change their minds, we'll have a ball...Wheepee...
 
Meanwhile, back in lame Canada...
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« Reply #279 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:18pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 1:18pm, MentalTossFlycoon wrote:


"I ain't got no heart..."

 
He's Tin Man but he's also Scarecrow ! He needs a brain ! Off to see the Wizard...
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« Reply #280 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:24pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 5:05pm, jimmie d wrote:

I dunno...you brought up the past.
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I'm sorry my friend, but with all due respect, you did.  
 
 
on Aug 27th, 2004, 2:39pm, jimmie d wrote:

If all who voted like you had voted for Gore, instead, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.
 
Bush & Gore are not the Bobbsey Twins.
 

 
 
(And my comment above that one was referring to THIS election cycle, "If all voted like me, we'd be out of Iraq and with the freed up billions be working on things at home". But that should be clear because of the topic of the three paragraphs it appears in).
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« Reply #281 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:39pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 5:13pm, Mij wrote:

You'll get a kick watching that big number (the cost of the war) growing up in New-York for another 4 years. Who said there was no fun to be had in this marvelous world ? And since Nader voters won't change their minds, we'll have a ball...Wheepee...
 
Meanwhile, back in lame Canada...

 
 
Hi Mij, nice to see ya skulking around in here((:
 
I didn't know the Times square sign caused such a stink, I saw it the other day. It looks like they changed the bomb to a dove.
 

 
NYC's anti-war billboard in court
Some advertisements are too political for Times Square
  
A dispute over a proposed anti-war billboard that could be displayed over Times Square in New York up until Election Day in November has landed in a federal court.  
 
Measuring 21m by 13m, the billboard was to show a stylised bomb and fuse, decorated in stars and stripes, with the message: "Democracy is best taught by example, not by war."
 
more...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D3F6870F-3E1A-4519-BC2D-857B1AE40495.htm
 
Clear Channel rejected the original design:

 
 
I bet many will love the new one What to do with $150 extra billion dollars. I saw an article on the new one, but I don't remember where.
 
Ahhh...here it is:

billboard in Times Sqaure counts the cost of the Iraq war starting at $134.5B and increases at a rate of $177M per day, $7.4M per hour and $122,820 per minute.    
By Anders Krusberg, AP  
 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-26-iraq-war-clock_x.htm
 
Here's a sight that attempts to put this number into perspective:
 
http://www.costofwar.com/
 
 
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."  
 
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 16, 1953
 
 
 
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« Reply #282 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 6:22pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 5:13pm, Mij wrote:
And since Nader voters won't change their minds...

 
That's not entirely true. Not all of 'em are going down with the ship this time.
 
on Jul 25th, 2004, 1:13pm, jimmie d wrote:
"Normally I'd vote for Ralph Nader, but this year I'm voting for Kerry because George Bush has got to go!"
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« Reply #283 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 11:55pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2004, 6:22pm, jimmie d wrote:

That's not entirely true. Not all of 'em are going down with the ship this time.

You're right but incoming polls are quite a bit alarming, don't you agree ? And this battle of words between supporters of Nader and Kerry is only benefiting Bush, but that you already know. (if Nader had a reasonable chance to win that would be another ball game though)
 
The ship is sinking and some wants to play it in a fancy way. I fear this is no time to be fancy. Run for your life first, and fix the rest after.
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« Reply #284 on: Aug 28th, 2004, 3:25am »
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The Republicans are controlling the debate here. The news is full of arguments over whether Kerry should have won three Purple Hearts or just two.
 
Meanwhile, Bush's military record remains sealed. Nobody's even asking if he showed up for his tour in the Texas Air National Guard or not.
 
At least we know that Kerry really did command a gunboat in Vietnam. After his tour, he came back and testified before Congress that the war was wrong. Who would know that better than a Vietnam vet?
 
I don't even know that George W. Bush ever left the United States until after 9/11. And I don't know that Ralph Nader has ever even been to Europe; much less Asia, Africa or South America.
 
I've learned to vote for what I know, rather than what I don't know.
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