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« Reply #165 on: Apr
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In a recent poll coming from
Washington (I read it this week in my local
papers)...
Bush.....48%
Kerry.....43%
It's been two or
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« Reply #166 on: May
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At last count, Kerry, like bush was
into sending more troops to Iraq as a cure for the
war. But he met with Nader a couple days ago, and
I know one of Naders main agendas is to change the
Democratic party platform. In that Kerry "says
whatever" to get votes, (my quoted example was
recently when Kerry promised he would "bring
victory in the war on terrorism"...I don't buy
that..especially by adding troops), it follows
that his tune should be changing soon about Iraq.
He's seen the same polls we've seen, hopefull
he'll start talking about pulling troops AND
corporate contracts from Iraq, as (IMHO), that's
the only thing that can start peace...If he starts
talking about that, it's going to cut back the
contributions he needs to beat bush, he doesn't
have enough money to win yet...on the other hand,
if his message differs from Bush's, the voters
might come. Interesting scenario.
Also, would Kerry pull the contracts
and the troops if he says he will? IMHO there's
serious question on that because he's already
shown me that he doesn't tell the truth, I
shouldnt forget what he's shown me.
At any rate, if Kerry had a
different message from Bush's about Iraq, that may
change the polls.
Meantime... here's
a funny song, "Both Sides Now":
http://www.capsteps.com/sounds/kerry-bothsides.ram
here it is in mp3:
http://www.capsteps.com/sounds/bush-surplus.mp3
(btw. My "Vote Corporate" mission
goes equally to Bush voters as Kerry voters,
although my focus was mainly Kerry before because
that's who's here. I didn't want the song above,
nor all my posting about Kerry's record to mean I
was after Kerry more than Bush. We all know Bush
is bad, there's no sense repeating that. It's the
voting record of Kerry I want to bring front and
center).
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« Reply #167 on: May
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Major lol!
"Sadman
Maddam"
http://www.capsteps.com/sounds/lirty-saddam.ram
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« Reply #168 on: May
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Also, the reason i think there is
very little difference in the future if Bush wins
or if Kerry wins is because the world situation is
not "reset to neutral" after the election. It's
not a matter of which would fuck it up more from
square 1.
Rather, we start from
where we already are in the world right now...
with an economy donated to corporate at home, and
with a boatload of extremists ready to die for
Alla, already to the point of attacking within the
US...as well as the general situation of corporate
backed oppression which happens to be mostly
Muslem, and with also the Palestinean situation.
Violence begets violence, and this is where we
are starting from.
That's the
situation we have.... We start here. If we push
corporate interests any more, the situation will
become WORSE than where we are right now, (in all
respects, even here at home with the economy).
If america doesn't all vote for the
best man this time, we're starting right here with
all this killing, and with financial security all
but gone...and it's going to get worse.
That's what we're up against, and
that's the message we need to promote through the
commutity.
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IMHO
Pulling the
corporate contracts is just as important as
pulling troops. We must release our control of
their oil, (as well as infrastructure contracts).
Also, just as importantly, we must
not set up the puppet usa democracy in Iraq. IMHO,
only a UN guided setup can be accepted...no matter
how many troops we send.
If Kerry
and/or Bush don't start saying these three things
right now, the situation of course will become
absolutly worse...from where it is now, forward.
Not a world I want to vote for.
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« Reply #170 on: May
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Nader Proposes Crackdown on Corporate
Crime, Fraud and Abuse
Twelve Steps to an Effective Crackdown
on Corporate Crime
1.
Increase Corporate Crime Prosecution
Budgets: The Department of Justice’s corporate
crime division and the Securities and Exchange
Commission have been chronically under funded and
therefore do not have sufficient resources to
combat the corporate crime wave in the United
States. This results in inadequate investigation,
settlement of cases for weak fines and ignoring
many corporate crime violators completely. There
needs to be a strong corporate law and order will
in the White House.
2. Ban
Corporate Criminals from Government Contracts:
The US should enact a tough, serious debarment
statute that would deny federal business to
serious and/or repeat corporate lawbreakers. The
federal government spends $265 billion annually on
goods and services. These contracts should not
support corporate criminals. These standards
should also apply to procurement contracts in
Iraq.
3. Crack Down on
Corporate Tax Avoidance: The US should punish
corporate tax escapees by closing the offshore
reincorporation loophole and banning government
contracts and subsidies for companies that
relocate their headquarters to an offshore tax
haven. The IRS should be given more power and more
budgetary resources to go after corporate tax
avoiders. Publicly-traded corporations should be
required to make their tax returns public.
4. Democratize Corporate
Governance: Shareholders should be granted the
right to democratically nominate and elect the
corporate board of directors by opening up proxy
access to minority shareholders and introducing
cumulative voting and competitive elections.
Shareholders should be given the power to approve
all major business decisions, including top
executive compensation. Shareholders should be
treated as the owners of the corporation – since,
in fact, that is what they are.
5.
Expand Corporate Disclosure: Corporate
sunshine laws should be enacted that require
corporations to provide better information about
their records on the environment, human rights,
worker safety, and taxes, as well as their
criminal and civil litigation records.
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6. Rein in Excessive Executive
Pay: Shareholder authorization should be
required for top executive compensation packages
at each annual shareholder meeting. Stock options,
which now account for about half of the executive
compensation, should be counted on financial
statements as an expense (which they are). Tax
deductions for compensation 25 times above the
compensation received by the lowest paid worker in
a corporation should be eliminated, as recommended
by business guru Peter Drucker.
7. Fix the Pension
System: Corporations must be held more
responsible for the retirement security of their
employees. At a minimum we need to give workers a
voice on the pension board; not require workers to
stuff their 401(k) plans with company stock; and
give workers the right to control their 401(k)
plans. In addition, an Office of Participant
Advocacy should be created in the Department of
Labor to monitor pension plans.
8. Restore the Rights of
Defrauded Investors: Repeal the self-styled
securities reform laws that block defrauded
investors from seeking private restitution, such
as the private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995, which allowed the aiders and abettors of
massive corporate crime (e.g., accountants,
lawyers, and bankers) to escape civil liability.
9. Regulate Derivatives
Trading: All over-the-counter financial
instruments, including derivatives, should be
subjected to the same or equivalent audit and
reporting requirements as other financial
instruments traded on stock exchanges. Rules
should be enacted regarding collateral-margin,
reporting and dealer licensing in order to
maintain regulatory parity and ensure that markets
are transparent and problems can be detected
before they become a crisis.
10.
End Conflicts of Interest on Wall Street:
Enact structural reforms that separate commercial
and investment banking services and prevent other
costly, documented conflicts of interest among
financial entities, such as those that have
dominated big banks and security firms in recent
years.
11. Track the Extent and
Cost of Corporate Crime: The Department of
Justice should establish an online corporate crime
database. Also, just as the FBI issues an annual
street crime report, "Crime in the United States,"
it should also publish an annual report on
corporate and white collar crime with
recommendations.
12. Foster
a National Discussion on Corporate Power:
Establish a Congressional Commission on Corporate
Power to explore various legal and economic
proposals that would rein in unaccountable giant
corporations. The Commission should seek ways to
improve upon the current state corporate
chartering system in a world of global
corporations and propose ways to correct the
inequitable legal status of corporations as
"persons." The Commission would be led by
congressionally-appointed experts on corporate and
constitutional law, and should hold citizen
hearings in at least ten cities followed by a
report and recommendations.
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Just a couple of my comments:
a) So sad we
hear nothing like this from the two well funded
candidates, it would give hope to us all if they
talked like this. But to them I guess it's 'bend
over and shut up', they've got an election to win.
b) I like #6 above. Offhand I
remember the figures as something like this:
In 1970 the AVERAGE CEO compensation
was 40X the average worker in their corp.
By 1980 it was roughly 80x their
averaged workers pay.
Bt 2000, CEO's
made 160X their average workers pay.
We better tighten our belts and
donate our pensions and medical to them and of
course...
Vote Corporate!
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« Reply #172 on: May
14th, 2004, 11:53am » |
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This from the Reform Party site,
(there's a lot of other interesting stuff there
too):
http://www.reformparty.org/cgi-bin/hcgmain.cgi
Reform Party of the USA
420 1/2 South 22nd Ave.
Hattiesburg, MS
39401
Reform Party endorses Ralph
Nader for President
(May 11, 2004)
The Reform Party of the United States of
America overwhelmingly
voted to endorse
Ralph Nader for President of the United States.
In 1992, founder and presidential
candidate Ross Perot received over 19 million
votes. Four years later, Ross Perot received
over 8 million votes. Today, the Reform
Party USA has over 1 million active supporters.
For example, in November, 2003, in
Mississippi, Reform Party candidate Billy
Blackburn pulled over 182,000 votes.
This year, with your help, Ralph
Nader can win the office of the Presidency, since
over 80 out of every 100 registered voters did not
vote for Democratic or Republican candidates in
the 2004 Primaries.
Reform Party USA
Chairman Shawn O'Hara said, "Ralph Nader has stood
up for the rights of American citizens his entire
life. He is a man of peace, and with the
help of every citizen who did not vote in the
primaries, he can win the November presidential
election. Want Reform, vote Reform, and vote
for endorsed Reform Party presidential candidate
Ralph Nader. On the whole, every time you go
to the gas pumps, and see the high gasoline
prices, look at what the Democrats and Republicans
have done to you. Therefore, please vote for
Ralph Nader for President."
Contact
Chairman Shawn O'Hara at 601-544-1424, or
National Press Secretary David Weller at
taylor-co-rp@cox.net
The Reform
Party USA can be found at
http://reformparty.org/.
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« Reply #174 on: Jun
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Thanks to the hard work beating the
pavement in Texas to collect 77,000 signatures to
get Ralph on the ballot in Texas. Good to see
people working so hard for democracy. To make it
harder, the signatures had to come from registered
voters who did not vote in the Primary. Nice work
peoples(:
NADER CAMPAIGN
SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETES PETITION DRIVE
PHOTO
OP: Monday, May 24, 2004, 3:00 p.m.
at the
Office of the Secretary of State, 208 E. 10th
Street (at Brazos)
Austin, TX: Today,
the Independent Presidential Campaign of Ralph
Nader will be turning in to the Secretary of
State, 3 p.m. more than 77,000 signatures
collected from the strenuous 75-day ballot access
campaign. The total raw signatures turned in today
represents well over the amount needed to yield
the required 45,540 valid signatures of Third
Party candidates. It is also more signatures than
the Nader Campaign collected in the 2000 campaign.
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on Jun 4th, 2004,
1:42pm, imisshimbad
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Thanks to the hard
work beating the pavement in Texas to collect
77,000 signatures to get Ralph on the ballot in
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Yes,
and their hero will very possibly get them what
they all deserve: 4 more years of Bush. Democracy
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We had to use a, had to use a putty
knife, man, to get them damn things off the
winduh. You couldn't even see out the winduh with
all them boogers, man. I'm not kiddin' you
(sniff).
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Funny, when Bush says he's sending
40,000 more troops into the violence he's an
asshole...when Kerry says it, he's golden.
When Bush says he's building 14
bases for a permanent foothold in Iraq, he's an
asshole...when Kerry says it, he's golden.
When Bush pushed for corporate
control of their oil and infrastructure, pushing
the profit center of the already filthy rich, he's
an asshole,....when Kerry says it, he's golden.
When Bush says he's going to occupy
Iraq he's an asshole,...when Kerry says he will
occupy at least 10 years, he's golden.
When Bush pushes for 400 BILLION for
a pork filled war machine he's an asshole,....when
Kerry signs it, he's golden.
When
Bush ignores the youth in pushing debt onto the
states in "no child left behind", he's an
asshole,....when Kerry signs it, he's golden.
When Bush pushed the loss of our
rights in cutting the Bill of Rights, he's an
asshole,....when Kerry votes for it, he's golden.
When Bush pushes job loss through
NAFTA he's an asshole, when Kerry becomes NAFTA's
leading advocate on the senate floor, he's golden.
BOTH kerry and bush got plenty of
our bucks to waste on this war, and neither of
them need the money for their kids, or their
retirement, unlike us, they're all set. So while
they push all the expensive rich mans bidding as
above, they are abandoning us at home. Nader is
the one who will immediatly pull the corporate
profit center from Iraq, he is the only one who
will do that, with Bush or Kerry it's just more
escalating violence, but for some reason, if Kerry
escalates the violence, that's a good thing. All
the while, Nader, its some kind of low life
because he will pull the profit center, pull the
troops, and stop the war. Next, he will
spend the freed up money on things we are
desperate for at here home, things we cant afford
pushing the war under Bush or Kerry.
Put
another asshole in there...that will fix things.
IMHO, people are voting strictly
from fear. IMHO, voting from fear is a BAD thing,
not a good thing. Voting for the lesser evil is a
BAD thing, voting only for the best man is a GOOD
thing. If people don't vote for the best man in,
we're not going to have the best president whom we
become more desperate for every year.
IMHO, if we don't vote for the best
man, we waste our vote.
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on Jun 4th, 2004,
10:38pm, Ronnys
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Yes,
and their hero will very possibly get them what
they all deserve: 4 more years of Bush.
Democracy is a good thing. Throwing away votes
in a time of crisis is not.
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The
above is an example of voting from fear.
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And to drive the point home about
just how bought both the Democrats and the
Republicans are, the Dems are about to nominate a
loser. All the while they have a winner in
Kucinich, but he sealed his fate standing up for
the people against the municipality in Cincinatti.
Kucinich will never be able to collect enough
corporate bucks for the nomination, because he
stood up against corporate for the people of
Cincinatti. But Kerry is god at dialing for
dollars and he'll get the nomination.
The dems have gone down just like
the Republicans, a winner like Kucinich gets
treated like Nader, while the loser like Kerry
gets the nomination.
And we get one
of the two losers because people can't do anything
else than vote for the person with the most money.
Too bad the Dems wouldn't nominate
Kucinich, I's vote for him in a second, either
Nader or Kucinich is fine with me...but we get
Bush or Kerry cuz they bring in the big
bucks.
The Dems are nominating a
loser, and are desperate to get people to waste
their votes on him. What a mess they made.
IMHO.
(Hey, at least I
stand up and call it like I see it. If fear wins
the election, we deserve what we get.)
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Now I suppose if someone can tell me
why it's good when Kerry does identical stuff as
bush that will escalate violence and death, then
maybe I'll see why it's good when Kerry does it
and bad when Bush does it.
I'll push for
violence, death and corporate profits while we all
lose here at home...if it's a good thing.
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